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maria: welcome back. good thursday morning, everybody. thanks very much for joining us this morning. i'm maria bartiromo. it is thursday, june 13, 7:00 a.m. on the east coast. hope you're having a good thursday morning. it's time for the hot topic of the hour. the house is voting yesterday to hold attorney general merrick garland in consistent t of congress and refer -- contempt of congress and referring him to criminal charges, for garland's refusal to turn over robert hur's interview with president biden, he said it would be difficult to convince a jury to convict the president with poor memory. democrats worry the gop will use the tapes for political war fare in an election year. in a statement garland writes this, it's deeply disappointing that the house of

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representatives turned a serious congressional authority into a partisan weapon, garland writes this, in a washington post op-ed, we don't investigate people because of their last name, political affiliation, size of bank account, where they come from or what they look like, we investigate and prosecute violations of federal law, nothing more, nothing less. the contempt of congress vote is largely symbolic as the doj would likely not go after its own boss, they noted in a memo that no u.s. attorney has ever pursued criminal contempt charges against an official who is asserting the president's claim of executive privilege. monica, we talked about this earlier. peter navarro is sitting in a prison right now because he said he had executive -- he was tied to the executive privilege for not responding to the subpoena over january 6, correct? >> yes. that is exactly right. it's the exact same situation that's unfolding here with the attorney general. steve bannon faces prison on the

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charge of defying a congressional subpoena. merrick garland is blowing it off. it's couching is in projection, accusing the other side of what they themselves are guilty of. usually with projection it's unconscious, people are not aware they're doing it. in this case, whether it's buy p den or merrick garland -- biden or merrick garland, this is part of a deliberate strategy of lying, twisting things deliberately to try to b confuse the american people. the good news is the deliberate strategy of lying and jo projecn is not working. the american people are aware of the dual system of justice here and the collapse of the rule of law and due process for people like president trump, peter know navarro and steve bannon. maria: merrick garland said we don't investigate people because of last name or politics or all of that, whatever he just said. i would argue, yes, they do, they've been investigating trump since day one.

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since he came down the elevator, the clinton camp makes up a story he colluded with russia. for years we're seeing an attack on donald trump because he's donald trump running for president. >> it had nothing to do with his name, they didn't do it before he was running for president. they've done it ever since. when you look at all of this, they're saying you can use the tapes for political war fare. what's in these tapes that you could use for political warfare? maria: that's a great point. >> anybody who ever did a podcast or anything like that, when you get a transcript, if you were to edit the podcast based on the transcript without listening to it. it would be ridiculous. you miss context. words are misspelled, mistyped. there's a lot that can go wrong. i think the american people deserve to hear it and this double standard that applies, you talk about, it's something that really harms the faith in of our institutions which really just goes to disrupt the fabric of this country.

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we're supposed to be able to trust and they're deflecting, not answering to the american people's concerns and instead of answering them they're blaming republicans, they're not saying i understand americans have concerns and here's what we need to do about i they're saying this is all nonsense and that's not going to rebuild trust. we'll end up with more par partakenship. maria: the white house has not ruled out president biden commuting hunter biden sentence. here's karine jean-pierre on that yesterday. watch. >> what i'm saying is that the president -- i have not spoken to the president about this. he was asked about a be pardon, hehe was asked about the trial specifically and he answered it very clearly, very forth right as we know the sentencing hasn't been scheduled yet. i don't have anything beyond what the president said. maria: another nonanswer. he was very clear.

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politico is reporting that president biden is blaming re-election bid for hunter's conviction, saying if i weren't running for re-election he would have gotten the plea deal, biden told a confidant earlier this month. >> the plea deal was a crooked deal. they were going to eliminate any potential future felony charge as part of that deal, that's why the judge stepped in and said what the heck are you trying to pull here. maria: unbelievable. >> i would fully expect president biden to pardon hunter. i do expect that to happen. but the democrats, they're running around with this and you're looking at hunter biden's conviction and he'ses kind of the sacrificial lamb. they're looking at this and sage look, see, the -- and saying look, see, the judicial system is fair. it's not just against trump. it's against biden too. we know that's not true. we know that these were legitimate felony issues that hunter biden committed. maria: yeah. great point. we're just getting started this hour. we're going to slip in a short

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break. federal reserve chairman jay powell made comments about the labor market, sparking concern over whether or not we can trust the monthly jobs report. the word on wall street panel is here with expectations on the ppi as well. you're watching "mornings with maria" live on of fox business. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪(voya)♪ there are some things that work better together. like your workplace benefits and retirement savings.

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maria: welcome back. it is time for the word on wall street, top investors watching your money. joining me right now is managing partner ted oakley, also with us this morning is mark tepper. ted, thank you for joining the conversation. mark, i want to kick things off with you.

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look at the march set, s&p 500 and nasdaq, another record high after a big rally yesterday. the dow was down 35 but the nasdaq was up 265 points, one and-a-half percent after the federal reserve held interest rates steady for the seventh straight meeting but projected one cut this year despite yesterday's mild inflation report. jay powell issued caution on looseloosening policy. watch. >> it will probably take longer to get the confidence we need to begin to loosen policy. rate cuts that might have taken place this year, take place next year. if you look at year end 2025 and 26, you're almost exactly where you would have been. we p don't think it will be appropriate to begin to loosen policy until we're more confident that inflation is moving down to 2% over time on a sustainable base business. maria: meanwhile, jay powell raised questions about whether we can trust the jobs reports, saying the numbers may be

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overstated watch this. >> the labor market was kind of overheated two years ago. and we've seen it gradually move back into much better balance between supply and demand. we've seen labor force supply come up quite a bit through immigration and through recovery in participation, you have strong job creation, payroll jobs coming in strong. there's an argument they may be a bit overstated but still, they're strong. so that's what we see. maria: a bit overstated, mark. we question it every month because we get all these revisions, big revision, it was up a lot less than we thought. >> nine out of the last 12 months were revised lower. the next month. >when nobody'spaying attention o powell's comments ab about a stg job market which he back pedaled on. it's strong for uber driver's and doordash delivery drivers. we're using full-time jobs at the expense of gaining part-time

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jobs. look, when you look at everything that's going on from an economic growth standpoint, it seems like the economy is beginning to slow a little bit as you look at job creation. it looks like inflation is certainly headed in the right direction. they a was a great inflation report this week that we've seen. i do believe that there is potentially a path for the fed now to cut in december. i see no way it happens in july. maria: before the election. >> yeah. there's no way it happens before the election. so i think there's a possibility that it happens in december, now, i had a client ask me this yesterday because i've kind of been telling a lot of clients we work with that you need to the fear the cut, not the pause. and the market does very well while the fed is in a holding pattern but as soon as the fed begins cutting, the next 12 months after the first cuts, stocks on average are down 23%. now, if you think about it, the fed formally cuts when we're entering a recession so there is potentially a path where the fed can thread the needle this time

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and go from maybe 5 and-a-half percent down to 4 and-a-half percent over time, knowing that the equilibrium rate or neutral rate where policy is neither accomodative nor restrictive may be in the three and-a-half percent rate. they may be able to say policy is still restrictive but it's less restrictive which would stimulate the economy and stocks could go up in that scenario. maria: i think i agree with you on the december cut. you can't see it happening before that. ted, what do you think about that? i want to get your take on apple. briefly surpassing microsoft as the world's most valuable company yesterday. it announced new a.i. plans. take a look at big tech this morning where of course we're seeing much of the leadership in this market. you say the current stock market reminds you of the 1999 and 2000 tech bubble. woe, twhoa, tell us about that. >> it's more concentrated. four stocks make up half the run this year as far as contribution and so if you think about it,

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nvidia is better than 495 stocks contributing to the s&p. that's a lot higher than it was, i mean a lot more concentrated than it was in 2000. so people are thinking, well, we're not like that. in a way we are. we're actually worse when you get down to it and i think that's what people fail to miss on this. maria: do you want to sell into rally on these stocks, you have 495 companies and you have five stocks that are really dominating the s&p 500 and driving the move. >> well, you should sell some. maria: sell some. >> we own some of those stocks for 15 years. we haven't been buying them in a long time because of valuations. and so if you own them and you have great profits and it doesn't hurt to take profit off the table. maria: he's person any a backdrop where we're uncertain -- especially in adrop where we're uncertain about the macro story. we'll get the ppi this morning. dow industrials are down 120 right now and ppi is expected to up one tenth of a percent month

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over month. mark, what about these numbers? do you think we'll see a similar reaction to what we saw yesterday with the cpi? >> cpi is more important for investors than ppi. but overall, it does seem like inflation is beginning to moderate which is great and maria, i think the fed's focus is really going to be on these month over month numbers. because it's going to take a heck of a lot longer for the year over year numbers to approach 2% than it would for us to see maybe three consecutive months of 0.1 or 0.2 month over month and i think if you can see that, over the course of maybe two more prints, that's going to give the fed the green light to at least move forward with one cut. maria: where would you be allocating capital right now, real quick, ted. >> i would want to get some income right now. because mark, what he's talking about, if it happens, you want to have income locked in. there's a lot of ways you can get income. i think you have to have income portion to your portfolio. maria: dividend payer? >> yeah, dividend payer.

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maria: or fixed income. >> you can take yield in a lot of ways. that's something i think you need. maria.maria: ted, great to hav. thank you so much. when we come back, attorney general merrick garland held in contempt of congress, sparking the doj to send a memo saying garland cannot be p prosecuted r failing to relief the tapes. speaker of the house mike johnson is here next. stay with us.

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maria: welcome back. the house passing a measure yesterday to hold attorney general merrick garland in contempt ofs congress for his refusal to comply with the subpoena demanding the audiotapes for president biden's interview with special counsel robert hur. it passed along party lines with one republican voting against it. ag garland making this statement, it is deeply disappointing that the house of representatives turned a serious congressional authority into a partisan weapon. joining us now, speaker of the house, mike johnson. great to see you this morning. >> good to be with you. maria: your response to what garland said, a partisan situation is what he's calling this. >> it's a rich irony to hear this attorney general talk about

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weaponizing a function of government. that's what the department of justice has been under his leadership or lack therefore. lack thereof.he is resisting a d important congressional subpoena. this is about exercising article 1 authority of the legislative branch. we can't allow executive branch agencies to decide when they want to comply with a congressional subpoena. that's what the a dis b is doing here. maria: what does this mean, this contempt of congress? >> it's a slap on the wrist of course. but it's something that congress has to do when have you a situation like this. remember, maria, what this is about. he is re-fiesing to turn over the audiotape of the lengthy interview that robert hur did with president biden. they gave us a transcript. the best evidence of what was said in the interview is the audio itself. since they've given us the transcript, why wouldn't they turn over the audio? makes you scratch your head a little bit.

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that's what we need to verify the accuracy of what was given to us in writing. we know this white house heavily edits things that president biden says and they have a history of that and so we have a responsibility of oversight to ensure that what robert hur did and what the decision he made not to prosecute which what's obviously clear violations of the law was justified and that the transcript they gave us matches the audio. that's a very simple issue. we're certainly entitled to the information that's being sought. maria: was the transcript doctored in some way? how significantly was it changed? >> well, that's the question, right, maria. we don't know. you and i, no one else can answer these questions except the attorney general and the handful of people at doj who have the actual audiotapes. they have to turn it over to congress. we're fulfilling article 1 responsibilities here and that's what's at stake. this is about maintaining the integrity of our congressional oversight and that responsibility and i think that's a very, very high issue, should be an important issue for

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the american people. maria: let me move on, mr. speaker. former president trump will meet with house republicans at the capitol club this morning to discuss the 2025 legislative agenda. what do you bt want to hear from president trump today. can you walk us through what the agenda looks like. >> there's a lot of excitement here. i met yesterday add the senate leadleader lunch. we began b to talk about plans tore 2025. the polling is indicating what we feel intuitively, there's a movement happening and there's a very high i think likelihood that we will not only have president trump reelected to the white house but we'll retake the senate and grow the house majority of. if we do that, we won't waste one moment. we have to be adequately prepared to begin an aggressive first 100 days agenda of the new congress in january and the new administration and we're going to do what the american people demand and deserve, secure the

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border, revive the american economy, unleash american energy and combat the weaponization of the government and justice system. we have specific plans to do all those things so talking about it, planning for it right now is an important part of what we'll be doing when we get the levers of control back. maria: and even before you put this growth strategy in place, by tapping into america's energy capacity, you'll focus on the border, right. a new american immigration council analysis of biden's border executive action finds at present the government is offering neither investment nor solutions, essentially crossing fingers that the asylum system will fix itself. they find that dhs has not been effectively screening noncitizens and asylum seekers. this comes after eight suspected isis terrorists were arrested in three major cities after illegally crossing the southern border. hillary vaughn asked a democrat senator about it. watch this. >> isn't that pretty bad if our systems in place are literally

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welcoming terrorists in with open arms? >> not being welcomed. to me, it's a reminder that republicans need to stop opposing additional resources for more border patrol agents and other dhs personnel to help continue to enforce the law. >> they had the personnel and let them go. >> they let them go. >> you don't think president biden has any responsibility for the fact that terrorists are being allowed into this country? >> the fact that they were identified and detained and we know where they are is them doing their job. maria: speaker johnson, your reaction? >> it's laughable to try to blame this on republicans. president biden and mayorkas who we had to impeach, as you know, that extreme measure was taken because it was necessary. they specifically -- the first day that president biden was in the oval office began issuing executive orders. we documented 64 specific actions that he and his agencies took to open that border wide

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and yes, there are known terrorists who have come across, nearly 350 on the known terrorist watch list that were stopped at the border and questioned but we don't know how many came through totally unabated, including got aways, millions who have gotten away, many came in without being known at all. maria, all the red lights are flashing as fbi director wray has testified to congress multiple times now. why? because we believe there's probably terror cells set up around the united states all because biden opened the bordernd a refuses to close it. there's no way anybody could possibly think that republicans have anything to do with this. we've been working on closing the border since we came into office and began in our house majority in this congress. we passed hr2, the most aggressive border security measure that's ever been passed by congress around you know where it is right now? it's sitting on chuck shy you ss desk in the democrat controlled senate. we're ham strung in doing anything until we have a president who cares about a closed border. that's why we need president

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trump back in office. maria: this is very dangerous and obviously we're all wondering what christopher wray is alluding to. we heard one lawmaker earlier say we're waiting for another 9/11. >> yeah. look, it's certainly possible because of the dangerous situation that we have here and you know that they've been distributed all around the country so all cities, all communities are potentially targets and it's very serious situation. we had the congressional baseball game last night, 28,000 people in the stadium in d.c. i'm sure over 100 members of congress and staffs and important officials. i'm sitting in the stands thinking wow, this is a dangerous situation. we're well protected but you can't possibly deter every harmful action and every plot and plan and we have made that possible because of the open border. maria: that's really distressing. and there's so many unknowns because of what you mentioned, 350 people on the terrorist watch list.

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wow. now also the republicans are eyeing the fiscal year 2025 national defense authorization act as a vehicle to help combat some of biden's policies on dei and gender ideology. speaker, tell us more about that and your time line for passing the ndaa. >> we're working through that this week and we should have the ndaa passed by friday, by the end of the week, and there's a number of amendments, hundreds of them that will be processed through on the house floor. we've been doing that the last couple days. it's really important. we're going to focus on the quality of life for service members which is an important element of this, maintaining national security. we need to get back to focusing again on lethality, that's what the military is supposed to be about, not not experimentation. we're going to get back to the principle of peace through strength. you have to have the right commander in chief to t do that. maria: the biden administration banned several c chinese compans

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from doing new business in america because of the surveillance on american citizens and those chinese companies, that a was put in the ndaa. the last time. but what they didn't do, what they failed to do is rip out the wiring that's embedded in the economy from china. which has surveillance, huawei equipment, surveillance tools against american business and american citizens. why not? why not add that to the ndaa? rip out the existing technology that has china spying on americans? >> yeah, absolutely. you know, we worked on that in the last rounds of you appropriations bills and national security supplemental package where we went through the divestment of tiktok and over h other threats from the chinese communist party. we have a commit at this working on that. this is a serious challenge. they're almost a peer to peer adversary to us. that's their ultimate goal. china is playing a long game. we have to be serious about it, have to ad adequately fund the l

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military to compete with that. that's a focus of the ndaa will be seriously addressing the threat of the chinese. maria: there's no effort to rip out existing technology embedded in america right now? that's chinese. >> there's a lot of discussion, legislative ideas on how to do that. we need bipartisan consensus on this. this is about the survival of the republic and the position as the last great super power on the planet. china wants to have that position. we feed to take it seriously. maria: the election is now five months away. recently you were with president trump and the two of you talked about ensuring that we would have a fair and transparent election. and that you were going to do things to ensure that. a lot of people have come on the program and questioned where's the bill. so recently i spoke with one and he raised it, listen to this. >> u.s. elections should be for

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u.s. citizens. he talked about texas. you could come right here to the nation's capital in washington, d.c. where they're encouraging noncitizens to vote. they sent out a post carden card encouraging noncitizens to vote in local elections. you could have someone residing for 30 days and they're eligible to vote for mayor and city council. this is a huge challenge. we need to make sure u.s. elections are for u.s. citizens only. there's legislation to do that. it could be ready for the floor any day. i would love to see the speaker bring forward the asac, a comprehensive election integrity package i've worked on for over a year, an opportunity to dramatically increase americans' confidence in elections and ban noncitizens from vo. maria: that was congressman bryan steil. there's others wondering where the bill is. you were under fire from a small portion of republicans in your

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membership. you were with trump and talking about election integrity. where's the bill? >> it's called the save act. brian has worked on it with us after he did an interview in early may we sat down a couple weeks later and i got him, he's the chair of the house administrative -- administration committee and chip roy, from the freedom caucus, we brought everybody together and worked on a consensus bill. it takes that time to build consensus when you have a one vote majority which is what we've been working through but we do have the bilker called the save act. and it willen p sure that the states have -- will ensure that if somebody registers to vote they have to provide proof of u.s. sit citizenship. currently, states are pro hiv ed in many places from demanding proof of citizenship. biden administration is encouraging them to go to local welfare offices, sign up for taxpayer benefits.

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they get a form that says check this box if you want to register to vote. we can't allow that to happen. we'll put pressure on chuck schumer and the senate to make sure is done and september to biden -- sent to biden's desk. if 24 they care about the intey of elections they'll sign this into law you. maria: merrick garland said he's vowing to stop voter id. >> obviously, that's the best evidence of where he stands on this. they want illegals to vote. everybody asked me around the country, i've been doing campaign events, i've been in 123 cities and 29 states the last six months. the second or physicianer question in every -- -- the question is why would they open the border, they want to turn them into voters. we have to stop it. we have a responsibility to do that on the federal level. so far, at least as we have jurisdiction, that is federal elections, we have got to make sure that only u.s. citizens are voting. it's a basic responsibility,

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the audio. it's a simple issue. we're entitled to the information being sought. maria: joining me now is michigan congresswoman debbie dingell. congresswoman, great to see you again. thanks so much for joining me. your reaction to what you just heard and to this vote. >> look, i think that yesterday's vote is a continued politicization of going after various secretaries. i have a great deal of respect for our attorney general. i do not think he was playing games. i think there was an investigation. he did not find cause. republicans didn't like the outcome. and i would really ask us, maria, on all sides, we have to take a deep breath and stop plpoliticizing people in public service. this is a gotcha moment, really. it's not going to go anywhere. we need to work on bipartisan

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issues. maria: i think a lot of people feel that way. have you told the fbi that? do you think there's a political attack on president trump since he first entered washington in 2015? >> i think that -- maria: what's the answer? >> i have to say this to you. maria: what'ses the answer? has president trump been attacked politically because he's trump. has he been attacked politically and -- >> i think there's a lot of political attacks on a lot of people. maria: i'm asking about president trump. what about trump? >> president trump does sot things that i have had issues with. you know it. the two of us have had interesting spars with each other. maria: what specifically? >> look, i think he does some things that -- i think the way he goes after people, i think the way that he sometimes twists the facts. maria: but i'm asking about that on him. attacks on him. >> there were 34 counts of

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felony in a due process by a jury of his poors. maria: what was the crime? what was the crime, congresswoman? >> what was the crime? maria: yes. >> the crime was he lied to people. he manipulated payments that were being made. he violated the law in terms of why was he making these payments. maria: do you see any similarities to the 51 intelligence officials who lied about the hunter biden laptop right before the 2020 election, calling it russian disinformation? >> hunter biden, by the way, we have a problem on all sides with russian disinformation so i'm never going to downplay it. maria: specifically the hunter biden laptop was real. they signed a letter saying it was russian disinformation. is that a similar situation to what president trump was convicted of. >> hunter biden was in a court and convicted. maria: that's gun charges, a separate situation. i'm talking about the hunter biden laptop before the 2020

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election, 51 intelligence officials signed a letter saying it was russian disinformation. they hid the truth before the election, is that similar to what trump was just charged with. >> there's an investigation going into that. maria: is there? >> i don't have the facts. i think you're going to hear a lot more about this lap ptop inn the coming months. i'm not privy on what was on there, what wasn't. maria: i'm asking is it a similar situation, is it a similar situation that people hid truth before the election in 2020 about hunter biden and now trump was just charged with i you guess hiding you you truthd of an election about a $130,000 payment he made to a p p*rn sta. is it the same. >> i don't have all the facts. i have to be careful. i don't have all the facts. i think a lot of people were looking for facts, didn't know what the biden computer was. i still don't know. maria: you still don't know what? >> i don't know all the facts related to this.

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i read lots of stuff. maria: i know the doj used the laptop as evidence in the gun trial against hunter biden had. so they obviously looked at the laptop. they said that it is real and we knew that it was real at the time. 51 intelligence officials said it wasn't. they lied. >> i don't have the letter in front of me. look, nobody's above the law. i want to make that really clear. nobody. the rule of law needs to work in this country. we've seen it twice now in the last month, people have been convicted and i want to know that the rule of law works. maria: we all do. >> nobody, i don't care if they're republican or democrat or who they are, whatever, the rule of law is a very important fact in our country. maria: i totally agree. do you think president trump has been treated fairly in these last six years? >> i do. maria: you do? >> i think the media on both sides can go after people but i think donald trump's brought on a lot of his own problems, quite

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frankly. maria: the former president has been hitting the campaign trail this week, he's headed to michigan, your state. i want to get your take on that. fox news polls find trump is leading biden in that state. congresswoman, what do you think is going on here in your home state that trump is actually leading biden in these polls? >> so i think it's early. i think michigan's a total purple state. i've said that. you were one of the only people that believed me when i said donald trump could win michigan in 2015. maria: that's right y. you said that. >> it was a competitive race. we're a purple state. i think donald trump understand insecurities of a lot of people and is good at talking to them about it. it is a -- there's a lot of issues in michigan, it's not just one issue. i think this race and michigan could go either way, democrats have to do a far better job in delivering the message, talking about the issues. donald trump knows how to -- he does talk to people's insecurities.

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he doesn't necessarily deliver on what those insecurities are or the promises that he makes. maria: he delivered certainly in the border, right? that was his main issue when he was president. and we were at, what, i guess a 40-year low or something, 40-year low i believe it was in terms of border apprehensions and now we're above a 20-year high. so when you take a look at the border issues and the fact that we've let in people who are on the terrorist watch list, do you feel the democrats and republicans see the national security threat that is a wide open border the same? >> i want to say this to you. i think there's a lot more issues in michigan than this. the fact of the matter is, donald trump -- republicans and democrats worked for months to reach an agreement that didn't make anybody perfectly happy but would have done something and donald trump said don't do it, we don't want to win. the border has been a problem through republican presidents and democratic presidents. maria: it's gotten much worse

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under biden. you know that. >> 9/11 happened under a republican president. maria: that wasn't about an open border. >> they came into the country. we didn't catch the terrorists. maria: we all witnessed 9/11. i was there. we all felt it. we all had friends we lost and we know it took 19 people to take down the trade center. why are we okay with having 350 people apprehended on the terrorist watch list. why aren't we doing more about this right now? >> we need to be doing more about it. we need to be putting more money which has been cut into border agents. we need to be putting more money into asylum. this isn't simple. we have farmers, small businesses that need workers, if they're not coming in it's impacting the economy. maria: you said we should have -- >> it's so complicated.

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we have to make sure. maria: i'm talking about illegal immigration. we need workers. that's fine. we have a structure in place to do that legally. we give out 1 million visas a year. >> we don't have people to even process that. we need to be -- maria: are you justifying an open border right now? >> i'm not justifying an open border. i want to go with the compromise that was reached by the republicans, led by republicans in negotiations and why did we not move forward with it in the senate? because we didn't want to give them a win? maria: it was allowing 5,000 illegals to come in a day before doing anything about and even the president's executive order right now has all these carve-outs. come on. one of the carve outs is unaccompanied children. the drug cartels have been exploiting unaccompanied children for years, now that's a carve out in the president's open border executive order? >> maria, this is a very complicated subject that no one's been able to deal with for decades.

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maria: president trump dealt with it. we were at 40 year lows in terms of apprehensions. >> i would respectfully disagree with you. maria: did you vote against hr-2? >> i don't remember. maria: you don't remember if you voted against hr-2? >> i can't -- it was under donald trump and i can't remember what i voted on back then so i should have -- maria: that was an important bill, you don't remember how you voted? >> maria, it's early morning, and it was- maria: it's 10 to 8:00 in the morning, congresswoman. >> i know. i get up -- i'm in the office at 5:30. i have to go back. i don't give false facts. i want to protect the border. it's a real issue. we need to be putting the dollars in and we need to be be working together on it instead of politicizing it. that's what we always do. we do it as a gotcha against each other. why isn't this an issue. maria: i'm talking about 350 people apprehended from the terrorist watch list, 50,000 chinese nationals having come

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in, in the last year. >> what is the gotcha. >> the fentanyl is an issue that's killing everybody. maria: exactly. >> because republicans wig not put the money into what we -- will not put the money into what we need to protect the border. why can't we have negotiations as republicans an democrats like they did in the senate and move forward and try to move it. why did donald trump say i don't want that bill, don't do it. that's not solving the problem. maria: we need a solution. you and i agree on that. real quick on the andrew cuomo yesterday, you're on the subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic. your take away from the cuomo testestimony yesterday. >> we're continuing to go after the facts. the select committee is a very important committee. there are clearly things that need to be investigated, we need to be transparent on everything. i don't want this committee to -- it gets there sometimes, is to be so political and police

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politicized, they're undercutting people's confidence in the public health. people aren't getting vaccinations they need. we're seeing measles come back again. we need to make sure we protect people in nursing homes, learning and not letting what happened then happen again in the future. it's not if there will be another, it's when. maria: it's very scary to think that way. that's true. that's why we're also afraid of a potential 9/11 attack which is what some of your colleagues are talking about right now. congresswoman, great to see you. we appreciate you taking on the tough issues, debbie dingell, thank you so much. we'll see you soon. >> thank you. maria: we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the biggest ideas inspire new ones. 30 years ago, state street created an etf that inspired the world to invest differently. it still does. what can you do with spy? ♪ ♪

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maria: welcome back. former trump prosecutor nathan wade sitting down with an interview before cnn before his handler stepped in. cheryl casone with the details. you've got to explain this to me. he went on cnn. >> he went on cnn. we have the video. this is a weird tv moment. this is nathan wade, sitting down for an interview with cnn when his handler halted questions about his romantic relationship with fani willis. watch. >> these exact dates are -- i'm getting signaled here. >> want to go off the mic for a second? >> yes.

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>> everything okay? >> yeah. >> i'm not going to answer those questions can. wade's handler clearly not wanting him to comment there about the relationship. remember, wade was kicked off the case for that relationship while willis really hung on by a thread. now she's rallying again, she filed a motion yesterday to dismiss the appeal by trump to have her disqualified from the case. well, goldie hawn speaking out on the rising crime epidemic in los angeles after admitting she experienced two break ins at her home, in just a four month span. hawn sharing she and her husband left their home for two hours and returned to a ransacked house. thieves attempted to break in again while she was home. she called la terrible and is considering moving to the desert. los angeles crime stats for 2023 show a 3.5% increase in property crimes. and then finally, maria, you won't believe what gen zers are

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doing on job interviews, they're bringing their parents. a new survey finds one in four gen zers brought a parent to the interview over the last year, 70% asked parents to help them find a job, 60% had parents submit job application for them, one in 10 had parents write the resume for them. the unstable economy is fueling the mommy and me trend. maria: mom wants to help but that's going a little far. [laughter] maria: thank you, cheryl. >> sure. maria: amazing. >> it happened to me. twice. where parents brought their children to inter. i did not hire them. >> eliminated. maria: we'll be right back. my parents worked hard for everything we had. they taught me the value of a dollar, and how to use it wisely.

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